John Doheny
Oct 28, 2008, 09:22 AM
I'm wondering if any other forum members would care to contribute stories about the thriving music scene that once existed in Vancouver's strip clubs. I did a lot of gigs in this area from about 1971 to 1975, but I know there was plenty happening on the scene before I arrived, and lots of the older cats turned a buck in this area. Gavin, I know you played some of these gigs. How about it?
Here's a cut and paste from another thread about some of my own experiences to get the ball rolling:
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I think my experiences playing strip clubs probably qualify as both a 'best' AND a 'worst.' Best because, well, let's face it, getting paid to play music while beautiful women disrobe 6 feet in front of your nose is not a bad way to turn a buck. But also because a situation like that allows you a perfect no-pressure way to develop your chops. I mean, nobody's paying any attention to YOU, right?
During the time I did this (roughly 1971-1975) there was some kind of city ordinance (I think it was through LCB) that said in order to have nude dancing and liquor, you had to employ at least a three piece band. This rule got eliminated sometime in the mid-seventies and all these gigs dissappeared almost literally overnight. But while it was happening, all kinds of players were making a (reasonably) decent living playing joints like the Kubla Khan, the Shanghai Junk (this one was managed by Tommy Chong for a while) the Place, the Wheelgrinder, the Club New Delhi and the Smilin Buddha (before it became a punk palace). The standard gig was 6 nights a week, monday through saturday, and paid anywhere from $75 to $125 a week. In 1971, when draft beer was 25 cents a glass and my rent was $40 a month, this was decent bread.
There were some good players working these jobs. Guitarist Harris Van Berkel and keyboardist Ron Smulavichi had a band. Gavin Walker was on the scene. Also saxophonists Gordy Bertram (later of Powder Blues) Gib Monk and Larry Volen. Guitar players John Burton, Richard Baker (Doug and the Slugs) Olaf Deshield and Henry Young. I remember bumping into bassist-singer William Taylor on these gigs (in fact, he was on the first band I ever saw Gavin Walker play in, at the Carioca Club, across from where the Railway Club is now). Robbie King was around. "Little Daddy and the Bachelors" vocalist Tommy Milton and saxophonist Freddy "Hose Nose" Carotenuto. Fearsome, powerhouse drummer Al Wiertz. Many. many more folks I'm sure I'll remember later.
The strippers were usually not too picky about which tunes you played. They were more concerened about the groove, and would often make requests like "gimmee a slow grind, a funky one, and a latin one." We'd give em a blues in 12/8 (like "Night Train") a Meters tune like "Cissy Strut" or "Funky Miracle," and Horace Silver's "Song For My Father." Each dancer would have 15 minutes to get naked, and after you'd worked with them a while, you developed a sense of their timing, so you'd know to insert that extra chorus of solo in J. Geils "She's So Sharp" to give her enough time to get her panties off and do a little writhing around on the floor before closing out the routine. Long-time dancers actually developed callusses from wriggling around on carpeted stages. They called them "strippers muscle." (I'll leave you to guess how I discovered this).
On the 'down' side, a lot of these places were pretty creepy. The Place, for instance, almost never had any customers in it. I could never figure out how the owner, Horst Winterhoff, made any money, and ultimately concluded the joint must have a racing wire in the back, or maybe it was some kind of money-laundering operation. (Years later, in the 90s, I was playing at a "mail order bride" party at the Polish Hall on Fraser street. The place was full of recent Polish immigrants all looking to 'meet up' with excruciatingly young-looking phillipina girls in Canada on temporary nanny-visas. The whole gig was mondo-creepy, and a familiar name was running it. Horst Winterhoff).
It wasn't that there were NO customers. It was just that the half-dozen or so in there were all old, penshioner-looking dudes, all sitting at seperate tables, all well away from each other. And all with their hats in their laps. And their hands under those hats. Working away furiously.
I had terrible visions of these guys walking down the street with man-goo dripping down their foreheads until one of the strippers hipped me to their system of slipping a wadded up handerchief in there to 'tidy up.'
Another version of this played out at the Club New Delhi on main st., where a group of working class gay guys who all worked for the VSB as janitors used to come by and give each other hand jobs under the table. Occasionally, hookers would come in and turn tricks in the back booths until the owner, Leo Bhagri, would notice. Then he'd go over, unplug the trick, and kick them both out.
The MC on that gig was a guy named "Jumpin Jay" Alexander. His theme song was a medley consisting of "Twist and Shout", "Land of a Thousand Dances," "La Bamba", and the Otis Redding hit "Hard to Handle." He'd exort the crowd to "get real loose like a bucket of juice, here at the fabulous Club New Delhi." The Delhi was different in that it alternated 'dance' sets (with strippers) with 'show' sets, where the band would play "for your dancing pleasure" and one of two featured singers the club employed would do their stuff. It was during one of these that Mary, an elderly pensioner who was a regular at the club, whipped up her dress to reveal herself to me stark naked on the dance floor. I still haven't entirely recovered from this.
Jay's favorite stripper (who used to 'do' him in his dressing room between shows) was an ex-biker chick named Sweet Baby Jane. She had 'property of the BDMC (Black Death Motorcycle Club) tattooed on her ass, and liked to hit ringside patrons over the head with one of her boobs during her act.
I think if I had to play these gigs now I'd probably slit my wrists, but at the time it was all vastly amusing. And it really did teach me what it means to be a professional musician, cranking it out night after night whether you felt like it or not.
Here's a cut and paste from another thread about some of my own experiences to get the ball rolling:
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I think my experiences playing strip clubs probably qualify as both a 'best' AND a 'worst.' Best because, well, let's face it, getting paid to play music while beautiful women disrobe 6 feet in front of your nose is not a bad way to turn a buck. But also because a situation like that allows you a perfect no-pressure way to develop your chops. I mean, nobody's paying any attention to YOU, right?
During the time I did this (roughly 1971-1975) there was some kind of city ordinance (I think it was through LCB) that said in order to have nude dancing and liquor, you had to employ at least a three piece band. This rule got eliminated sometime in the mid-seventies and all these gigs dissappeared almost literally overnight. But while it was happening, all kinds of players were making a (reasonably) decent living playing joints like the Kubla Khan, the Shanghai Junk (this one was managed by Tommy Chong for a while) the Place, the Wheelgrinder, the Club New Delhi and the Smilin Buddha (before it became a punk palace). The standard gig was 6 nights a week, monday through saturday, and paid anywhere from $75 to $125 a week. In 1971, when draft beer was 25 cents a glass and my rent was $40 a month, this was decent bread.
There were some good players working these jobs. Guitarist Harris Van Berkel and keyboardist Ron Smulavichi had a band. Gavin Walker was on the scene. Also saxophonists Gordy Bertram (later of Powder Blues) Gib Monk and Larry Volen. Guitar players John Burton, Richard Baker (Doug and the Slugs) Olaf Deshield and Henry Young. I remember bumping into bassist-singer William Taylor on these gigs (in fact, he was on the first band I ever saw Gavin Walker play in, at the Carioca Club, across from where the Railway Club is now). Robbie King was around. "Little Daddy and the Bachelors" vocalist Tommy Milton and saxophonist Freddy "Hose Nose" Carotenuto. Fearsome, powerhouse drummer Al Wiertz. Many. many more folks I'm sure I'll remember later.
The strippers were usually not too picky about which tunes you played. They were more concerened about the groove, and would often make requests like "gimmee a slow grind, a funky one, and a latin one." We'd give em a blues in 12/8 (like "Night Train") a Meters tune like "Cissy Strut" or "Funky Miracle," and Horace Silver's "Song For My Father." Each dancer would have 15 minutes to get naked, and after you'd worked with them a while, you developed a sense of their timing, so you'd know to insert that extra chorus of solo in J. Geils "She's So Sharp" to give her enough time to get her panties off and do a little writhing around on the floor before closing out the routine. Long-time dancers actually developed callusses from wriggling around on carpeted stages. They called them "strippers muscle." (I'll leave you to guess how I discovered this).
On the 'down' side, a lot of these places were pretty creepy. The Place, for instance, almost never had any customers in it. I could never figure out how the owner, Horst Winterhoff, made any money, and ultimately concluded the joint must have a racing wire in the back, or maybe it was some kind of money-laundering operation. (Years later, in the 90s, I was playing at a "mail order bride" party at the Polish Hall on Fraser street. The place was full of recent Polish immigrants all looking to 'meet up' with excruciatingly young-looking phillipina girls in Canada on temporary nanny-visas. The whole gig was mondo-creepy, and a familiar name was running it. Horst Winterhoff).
It wasn't that there were NO customers. It was just that the half-dozen or so in there were all old, penshioner-looking dudes, all sitting at seperate tables, all well away from each other. And all with their hats in their laps. And their hands under those hats. Working away furiously.
I had terrible visions of these guys walking down the street with man-goo dripping down their foreheads until one of the strippers hipped me to their system of slipping a wadded up handerchief in there to 'tidy up.'
Another version of this played out at the Club New Delhi on main st., where a group of working class gay guys who all worked for the VSB as janitors used to come by and give each other hand jobs under the table. Occasionally, hookers would come in and turn tricks in the back booths until the owner, Leo Bhagri, would notice. Then he'd go over, unplug the trick, and kick them both out.
The MC on that gig was a guy named "Jumpin Jay" Alexander. His theme song was a medley consisting of "Twist and Shout", "Land of a Thousand Dances," "La Bamba", and the Otis Redding hit "Hard to Handle." He'd exort the crowd to "get real loose like a bucket of juice, here at the fabulous Club New Delhi." The Delhi was different in that it alternated 'dance' sets (with strippers) with 'show' sets, where the band would play "for your dancing pleasure" and one of two featured singers the club employed would do their stuff. It was during one of these that Mary, an elderly pensioner who was a regular at the club, whipped up her dress to reveal herself to me stark naked on the dance floor. I still haven't entirely recovered from this.
Jay's favorite stripper (who used to 'do' him in his dressing room between shows) was an ex-biker chick named Sweet Baby Jane. She had 'property of the BDMC (Black Death Motorcycle Club) tattooed on her ass, and liked to hit ringside patrons over the head with one of her boobs during her act.
I think if I had to play these gigs now I'd probably slit my wrists, but at the time it was all vastly amusing. And it really did teach me what it means to be a professional musician, cranking it out night after night whether you felt like it or not.